[00:00:00] Ruth: Coming up, on Episode 1
of Ridiculistics... And I'm like, no, no, I didn't get it wrong. I'm funny!
[00:00:34] Tim: All right, let's do it!
[00:00:35] Joe: Okay, welcome to Ridiculistics! Episode one!
[00:00:39] Tim: Ri-dic-u-lis-tics!
[00:00:41] Joe: Tim and I have been connected since the beginning of time.
[00:00:45] Tim: And actually, joe and I go back, uh, 20... 23 years?
[00:00:51] Joe: Depending on when you're listening to this.
[00:00:56] Tim: I feel like you, because this was your sort of... I want to say brainstorm, but it wasn't. It was your, what's the word I'm looking for? It was your... brainchild?
[00:01:07] Joe: Oh yeah.
[00:01:08] Tim: This was your brainchild and had been for a long time.
[00:01:12] Joe: Also, gross!
I had a brain child!
[00:01:20] Tim: I saw that movie.
[00:01:23] Joe: brain child 2. What a disaster.
[00:01:26] Tim: Brainchild 2: twins! Brainchildren. I guess it makes sense, you know,
you can have more than one idea that generates from within your brain.
[00:01:38] Joe: Yeah. These are my brain children.
the brain family tree.
[00:01:44] Tim: Your brainchild was Ridiculistics and this goes back so long. From where you and I would find things funny that we'd hear or we'd come up with and, we had that tiny, tiny, tiny, almost the smallest post it you can have.
[00:01:59] Joe: Oh yeah!
[00:02:00] Tim: And we wore that shit out, remember?
Like we were front
[00:02:02] Joe: and
[00:02:02] Tim: back side.
[00:02:03] Joe: Front
[00:02:04] Tim: and then it had to go into , the database that you built.
[00:02:08] Joe: Ah, the I dead B which is the idea DB,
yeah but every time I saw it, I'd read I dead B.
[00:02:17] Tim: Yeah, so this has been, in one form or another. a long time coming. I think
[00:02:21] Joe: Yeah, really it was a list before anything else, because I thought, Oh, I'll do something with this someday. But, it was the right time and you're the right person completely to talk about it and the list of idioms, that have amassed over the years, like a thousand of'em and
I'm not even scraping the iceberg there no? Is it?
[00:02:42] Tim: That is scraping the iceberg,
[00:02:44] Joe: Not even scraping the iceberg. I have people for that.
[00:02:48] Tim: not even scratching the iceberg!
Which is a whole different kind of euphemism. So this is interesting, though, in that Ridiculistics sort of, Evolved out of this thing about words and language that we, so many times have interrupted real conversations... with people who probably now don't like us because it's like, we're trying to think of something funny every time somebody says a word.
[00:03:11] Joe: I know, and if it's a heartfelt conversation...
[00:03:13] Tim: Yeah. Fortunately we limit those.
[00:03:17] Joe: heartfelt stuff. Yeah. Stay away from that stuff at all costs.
[00:03:20] Tim: So it came out of. Like idioms seem like the most obvious one,
letting the cat out of the bag,
water under the bridge, whatever it is. But then we realized like, there's a lot of other stuff that we like as well in terms of language.
And I only learned this recently cause I'm an idiot, which is, what we love is called figurative language. So you got your idioms, your metaphors, your analogies, things,
You know how everybody uses the word literally wrong these days.
[00:03:51] Tim: yes.
[00:03:52] Joe: So the opposite of that would be figurative. We're thinking of words literally, but thinking about them in a different context than what is being used, right?
So when you're listening to someone, you hear them say the word, and you're thinking, What else could that word be or, , right away, your brain kind of goes elsewhere with that word in context and of course you're ignoring the person that's talking during that phase.
And that's I mean, we've already done it a couple of times during this conversation, but just gone off the
[00:04:24] Tim: yeah. I, and it makes me wonder too, I don't know if everybody knows this term, guitar face?
[00:04:29] Joe: Oh
yeah.
[00:04:30] Tim: So it's when somebody, you know, is playing guitar. Usually they're a person who is good at playing guitar. Who can go off into another world.
[00:04:39] Joe: A zone, yeah.
[00:04:39] Tim: While you are conversing with them. They go off into their zone and they're looking at you like, I know I hear what you're saying. That's guitar face. They have no idea what you're saying. They're not listening. So I wonder if there's also like an idiom face or something like that, you know, where
it's just like, you're like, I'm hearing you,
I'm hearing you, but am I?
[00:04:59] Joe: Yeah, exactly. I think something everybody can kind of identify with these days, that's just like guitar face is
phone face
because people are on their phone. And you're talking to 'em
and this person's on their phone.
I'm not sure they're totally paying attention to me, but I'm going to still talk. And then you say something about how you murdered Abraham Lincoln, just to see...
[00:05:20] Tim: and nothin',
[00:05:21] Joe: Exactly. That's guitar face. That's the same, they're not there.
[00:05:25] Tim: Although, I do like calling somebody a phone face. I'm mad at you. Plus you're distracted by your phone. So. Phone face!
[00:05:33] Joe: Have you had a bad day? Why, why the phone face?
[00:05:41] Tim: In terms of idioms there are so many of them, the way we're going to start off with an idiom or start off, whatever it is, the topic is that we're going to talk about. We're going to explain where it came from. We're gonna, there are going to be some learnings.
[00:05:54] Joe: There will be.
[00:05:55] Tim: There are going to be learnings. And, in the words of Steve Martin, "word usements"
[00:06:01] Joe: I love when words are, thought up and practiced and then accepted. There's a word that a lot of people use... efforting? Have you heard of that?
[00:06:12] Tim: uuuuuuh!
[00:06:13] Joe: So you're efforting.
[00:06:14] Tim: This feels like a whole different podcast to me, which is just, which is rage.
[00:06:18] Joe: I just wanted to point out that that stuff can happen too. You know?
you want to action something? Don't get me started.
[00:06:25] Joe: You want to look for a solve on that?
[00:06:27] Tim: Oh Jesus. That's not one, is it?
[00:06:29] Joe: Oh, it is one! Yeah, for sure.
[00:06:33] Tim: really?
[00:06:34] Joe: We're just trying to get to a solve.
[00:06:36] Tim: Oh, no.
This is a good one. Cause my sisters and I, and in laws love this and just come up with, it's like, oh, I've got a new one for you. And I don't usually come with the new ones because I don't work in that world. So I have to get mine secondarily, but now I can bring that to them and be like, is this, you have to call it a solve.
Like it's a noun. Is that correct?
[00:06:57] Joe: We're trying to get to the solve.
[00:06:59] Tim: You get to a solve.
[00:07:00] Joe: Yeah. It's really just not saying solution and saying solve instead.
[00:07:05] Tim: that's the thing About these though. It's like--
[00:07:07] Joe: They already have words!
[00:07:08] Tim: Why are you trying to come up with another one when this one is perfect? Like this one has been like it's been there long enough to be in a huge book.
[00:07:17] Joe: Right.
Yeah. You remember books?
[00:07:19] Tim: Remember the books with the words in them and then the things that they mean? The dictionary?
There's already one for that.
[00:07:26] Joe: You want to talk about how I thought Miriam Webster was a chick?
[00:07:32] Tim: You got I don't think you can use chick now.
[00:07:34] Joe: Oh, uh, a lady?
[00:07:37] Tim: A woman, I think.
[00:07:38] Joe: Okay. I've gotten in trouble doing the "girl" thing. Like, I thought, because you don't want to call somebody Miss or ma'am, right?
[00:07:47] Tim: You can call'em Ms.
[00:07:48] Joe: Okay. But it still puts them in a bucket of like age and maybe "girl" does too, because, you know, "I'm not a girl. I'm a woman!"
So, I think woman is probably the one to go with. I'm going to do that now.
[00:08:00] Tim: I'd also advise against, um, suggesting to someone that you're going to put them in a bucket.
[00:08:05] Joe: Oh, did I put somebody in a bucket?
[00:08:08] Tim: Yeah, you did.
[00:08:09] Joe: What if that bucket was kicked? While they were in it.
[00:08:12] Tim: Again, it's a metaphor. You know, it's just like, I don't want to lump y'all in together. But then it becomes, well, it's a little creepy. I don't want to put you in a bucket.
[00:08:24] Joe: That is creepy! And what I mean by that is chop you up and put you in a bucket.
[00:08:31] Tim: And then serve you as chum on the ocean, on the high seas.
[00:08:37] Joe: The Hi-Cs! that's a drink!
[00:08:41] Tim: No, no, it's not. So let's get into it.
[00:08:45] Joe: Yeah. So let's throw out an idiom. The apple of my eye.
[00:08:51] Tim: It's a little, it's a little oldie time.
[00:08:53] Joe: Oldie time?
[00:08:55] Tim: Yeah!
[00:08:55] Joe: Let me tell you, it's, it's not only oldie time. It
is. One of the oldest times that we have ever talked about like
everything's from the 16th century We we have found like a lot of
things 16th century seems to be the sweet spot for doing something new.
[00:09:09] Tim: Is this one older than that?
[00:09:10] Joe: Oh my gosh! It's so much older. 9th century!
[00:09:14] Tim: See, here's what's weird about it is I thought if you told me like what is one of the newer fruits...
I would have said I would have said apple. So this is this is bizarre to me that it would go that far back
[00:09:26] Joe: Newer fruits!
[00:09:29] Tim: They are making, they're making new fruits! They just, I just heard a thing on NPR that said, uh, they'd done this at the agricultural school of...
[00:09:40] Joe: ...fruit makin'?
[00:09:41] Tim: At Oregon state, where they made a new fruit, I mean, a new apple and they were having a contest to name the new apple?
[00:09:50] Joe: Really.
[00:09:50] Tim: I swear to God. then They said the new Apple should be available, like, by 2029.
[00:09:57] Joe: What does this new apple do?
[00:10:00] Tim: It's a combination of a crisp and uhhhh, non crisp? I don't know?
[00:10:06] Joe: Because there's all kinds of apples.
[00:10:08] Tim: might have combo'd.
[00:10:09] Joe: There's one of your eye, I heard.
[00:10:10] Tim: Yeah, speaking of which...
[00:10:13] Joe: so, 9th century!
[00:10:14] Tim: That was when there were still dinosaurs, I think.
[00:10:17] Joe: Yeah, and some guy named... Alfred the Great. He was the king of the West Saxons. He's attributed for writing this the first time for coining the phrase in the ninth century. I think it was...
[00:10:32] Tim: the, you realize that's the 800s.
[00:10:35] Joe: Which is the ninth century, cuz you start with the zeroeth.
[00:10:39] Tim: I have to remind myself every time. When it's like 20th century, does that mean we're in 21 hundreds?
[00:10:44] Joe: I love when people are like at hockey games or whatever, and they count down to zero, three, two, one, and they're counting down based on the first number when the thing has a 10th spot?
So it's 3 point 9 and they're saying three and then they get to zero and it's still got a point 9. So they're like, It's not it's
[00:11:02] Tim: what are we supposed to do now?
[00:11:04] Joe: Yeah. 871 to 886. He was the king of the West Saxons. And originally this term referred to the aperture of the human eye
or the pupil.
[00:11:19] Tim: wow.
[00:11:19] Joe: Shakespeare used it , in a midsummer's night's dream, uh, it's been, it's in the Bible. idioms in the Bible is a whole thing.
[00:11:28] Tim: Wait, how could it be in the Bible? The Bible's before Saxons.
[00:11:32] Joe: okay. But, there's a bunch of different versions of the Bible.
[00:11:35] Tim: Like a newer version?
[00:11:37] Joe: right. King James. One of the older ones, but it's not like Saxon old.
[00:11:43] Tim: Right.
[00:11:44] Joe: And what it means is your pupil part of your eye is so important. That importance led to the whole apple of my eye. The thing that is most important to me.
[00:11:56] Tim: So, if it had to do with aperture, is it like, it's important to me to keep
[00:12:01] Joe: That vision is important.
[00:12:03] Tim: Right. It has something to do with vision.
[00:12:05] Joe: Well, it's just the importance of it.
[00:12:08] Tim: Yeah.
[00:12:09] Joe: what's important? Well, my eyeball is important. your, Your spouse or your other, or your love interest or whatever is that important.
[00:12:18] Tim: Oh
[00:12:19] Joe: So, interesting! That first of all, aperture and apple...
that must be something.
[00:12:25] Tim: Yeah, what point did that become a thing? Was it just a real lazy...
[00:12:30] Joe: eh, it's close enough. Yeah.
[00:12:32] Tim: "I would like a more beautiful thing than aperture, maybe a fruit."
You know?
[00:12:37] Joe: And one of the older fruits, none of that new stuff.
[00:12:40] Tim: And maybe one, right. No, none of the new fruits. like, uh, pomplamoose. We don't want it to be pomplamoose of my eye.
[00:12:48] Joe: That brings in the whole like, why? And I think we're picking it up why it was apple, but, and it could have been a miss, somebody misheard them? Did you say apple of my eye?
You know? Um, could have been that. But the whole changing it up, changing the noun part of the idiom to understand why it couldn't be Pomplamoose of my eye.
[00:13:07] Tim: I remember getting pomplamoose of my eye when I was in... third grade?
[00:13:11] Joe: yeah, You go straight home cause it's contagious.
[00:13:14] Tim: And then the ointment.
[00:13:16] Joe: Oh, the ointment, the ointment, of my eye. So, so if you do swap out that noun and if you stay in the fruit category, it could be a fruit you don't like at all.
[00:13:27] Tim: Oh, avocado. That would have been great because people don't even think of avocado as a fruit. So you would have had, there would have been an extra learning on that.
[00:13:36] Joe: There, there would have been an extra learning.
[00:13:39] Tim: Avocado of my eye.
[00:13:40] Joe: and just to be clear, by the way, it's lesson that we're replacing with learning . Right?
[00:13:46] Tim: I don't know.
I don't know, "a learning" I think is great learnings.
I mean,
[00:13:51] Joe: You think it's great?
[00:13:53] Tim: Oh, I think it's hilarious.
No, I don't think it's great. It's an abomination, but it's it's, very fun. to say.
[00:13:58] Joe: Okay.
[00:13:59] Tim: Those are the things that you have to be careful if you say them too often, because you'll say them in front of people, because you enjoy saying it so much. Like, I love calling myself "a idiot", and, in therapy, they call it negative self talk. Who gives a shit? I just find it entertaining. Like if I say "well, I don't know that because I'm a idiot." Because I'm not putting the N on the A as the article ahead of it,
I confirm myself as an idiot,
you know, I have to be careful when, I guess I don't have to be that careful if I'm going to refer to myself as an idiot out in public anyway.
There's not that, much at risk.
If I say I'm an idiot, they're not going to go... "no, you're not! Look at how you use that article correctly." On the other hand, if I say I'm a idiot, it's instantaneous
[00:14:49] Joe: yeah. Your point has been made.
I think what you need to really be careful with even more, is believing it yourself. I still have trouble with the word strategy, and stragety. So stragedy, is something I, I've like joked on all the time, so when I think of that word, sometimes I get it wrong. I'm like, what is the real word?
[00:15:12] Tim: Right, like you did with, uh, Shit Hits the You Know What.
[00:15:16] Joe: Oh, that is one of my favorites.
And it's an idiom too. I love that.
[00:15:20] Tim: The original one is an idiom.
[00:15:22] Joe: Sure. But that, changing around just to like mute the, the thing that the fan, which everybody knows.
[00:15:31] Tim: Shit hits the you know what. I could do those things for days. and be entertained. I'm not even sure, did we make that up?
the shit hits You You Know What? I think, your sister did?
[00:15:41] Tim: I think Cathy did.
[00:15:42] Joe: Yeah. She's hilarious.
[00:15:44] Tim: But then you said it in a meeting.
[00:15:46] Joe: I said it to people, they thought I got it wrong. It's just like your "a idiot" And I'm like, no, no, I didn't get it wrong. I'm funny!
[00:15:56] Tim: Right. gets me.
Oh, and you're fired.
[00:16:01] Joe: Yeah. I did it at work. Whatever.
Why do you think Apple's a new fruit?
Cuz of the computer company?
[00:16:10] Tim: Oh no, I don't think so. I'm not even familiar with that.
I don't know if I were to look at like old fruit seems like grapes. Right. Cause
[00:16:18] Tim: you got... wine.
[00:16:19] Joe: The rulers all had that.
[00:16:20] Tim: They all had it and then they had their people feeding them . I don't remember "Oh, my people around me are going to be feeding me apples."
[00:16:28] Joe: Now I'm trying to think about where I've seen apples in old things. And it's usually the only time you see it is in a pig's mouth.
[00:16:36] Tim: Oh, I was going to say a still life painting at a museum. .
[00:16:39] Joe: in a pig's mouth.
[00:16:41] Tim: In a pig's mouth, right.
[00:16:42] Joe: Whole, the whole, painting.
[00:16:44] Tim: The entire, painting...
You should have aI work that up for us.
And then we'll have a new logo. Oh, or it could be our, it could be like our mascot, our Ridiculistics Pig. So, the apple, Stevie Wonder, right? That's the first thing I think of.
[00:17:02] Joe: Of course. Why?
[00:17:04] Tim: You are the sunshine of my life.
[00:17:07] Joe: Oh yeah, that's
[00:17:09] Tim: you are the apple of my eye.
[00:17:11] Joe: yeah. The light of my life is another very similar idiom to apple of my eye.
[00:17:16] Tim: But it's a little more on the nose.
Or... in the eye. It's a little more
We're talking about Vision, and Stevie Wonder too,
[00:17:26] Joe: so,
I, I
don't know if that was on purpose or not, but, it's
really ironic.
[00:17:35] Tim: Maybe he doesn't like her so much!
[00:17:39] Joe: Yeah
[00:17:43] Tim: "Nobody gets my satire!"
[00:17:47] Joe: Wow.
[00:17:51] Tim: Aahhhh
[00:17:51] Joe: Cause that was the original lyric and then Stevie's like, look,
which is funny also for him to say.
But I think, apple my eye, it's kind of interesting to know where that all came from and how it is so vital because without it, without the apple of your eye, you won't have vision, and that's a horrible thing to have, have lost.
[00:18:14] Tim: So we're assuming it's like a one to one between apple and aperture?
The thing that, provides your vision. You trust this derivation here or...
[00:18:23] Joe: I do it's from multiple sources.
[00:18:26] Tim: uhhh... I went to the store the other day, and I was looking in the, um, the medical section, I found Visine and you know, they have different things. This is for pink eye. This is for dry eyes. This is for redness. and they have their little tagline. And this particular one, it was Visine. It gets the apple out.
So,
[00:18:47] Joe: wait, does that make you blind?
[00:18:50] Tim: oh, I wouldn't think that would be approved by the FDA.
[00:18:54] Joe: I hope You put it back.
[00:18:57] Tim: It depends. Maybe it's just a relationship thing. Like Relationship is complicated. I keep going back to it, but I need to get out. And they're like, take this.
[00:19:07] Joe: I need some apple remover.
[00:19:08] Tim: Yeah.
[00:19:10] Joe: If you had some apple juice in your eye? That would confuse the heck out of all this.
You're the apple juice of my eye?
[00:19:17] Joe: Yeah.
I'm going to start using the apple juice of my eye it's one of those things where you can do it and, ah, I'm going to throw this out there and see if anybody catches it.
[00:19:31] Tim: You Could do apple pie of my eye.
[00:19:34] Joe: Oh Yeah.
[00:19:34] Tim: Right? Because then you got rhyme. So then you got pie in your eye.
Oh, like mud in your eye.
[00:19:41] Joe: Oh, well, you know, pie-eyed is a thing too.
[00:19:44] Tim: What is that? What does that mean?
[00:19:45] Joe: It's like, old animated characters that have eyes that are just round and they have like the little pie cut out of them?
I think that's, that's why it's called the pie eyed.
[00:19:54] Tim: Again, the things that, that we're teaching here .
[00:19:56] Joe: That's the magic, right? I mean, it's a learnings based podcast as well as kind of ridiculous and just for you and me to talk some more.
[00:20:07] Tim: All right, well, I think that we've covered that.
[00:20:08] Joe: For sure.
[00:20:09] Tim: I mean, we could go on, on Apple of my eye.
[00:20:12] Joe: We definitely could, and even Alfred the Great, whoever that guy was.
At a certain point, Alfred stopped being a name that you would associate with "great."
[00:20:24] Joe: They're not a lot of great Alfred's anymore.
[00:20:26] Tim: I don't think so.
[00:20:28] Joe: uh, wasn't Batman's Butler named Alfred?
[00:20:32] Tim: Yeah. And he was pretty cool,
[00:20:34] Joe: but I would stop before I got to great.
[00:20:36] Tim: I think because you went like, uh, he's a butler, right? So he's, he's a, he's a servant of sorts.
[00:20:42] Joe: No offense to any butler's out there.
[00:20:44] Tim: I mean, names go, names go in and out of favor, which is kind of fascinating. You know, like Toby.
Toby's just one kind of guy.
[00:20:54] Joe: Not a lot of Toby's anymore.
[00:20:56] Tim: Very few
[00:20:56] Joe: Because there's no, nothing's short or long for Toby is there?
Tobias?
[00:21:01] Tim: Tobias probably.
yeah.
But maybe that's only because of Arrested Development
[00:21:06] Joe: Oh man. So, so great.
[00:21:08] Tim: Tobin?
Oh, the Tobin spirit guide.
[00:21:13] Joe: What's the Tobin Spirit guide?
[00:21:14] Tim: that was from Ghostbusters.
[00:21:16] Joe: Oh, is it really? You know, another baby name that's not very popular is Zuul.
[00:21:23] Tim: Yeah.
[00:21:23] Joe: Not even after Ghostbusters came out.
[00:21:27] Tim: Who's the one who's going to be ballsy enough to name their baby Zuul? I know a lot of people do it just for like, I'm going to name my child, square root of seven , or whatever. Then that's just stupid. But if you say you're going to name your kid Zuul, there's a chance that could catch on and then suddenly you're like, that was me.
[00:21:48] Joe: Yeah.
[00:21:50] Tim: it's a big chance to take, but you're potentially making a change in the universe.
[00:21:55] Joe: yeah, which is what idioms, if you did have it catch on?
[00:21:58] Tim: yeah!
[00:21:59] Joe: You've then, made that a thing.
[00:22:01] Tim: yeah. You've changed the world.
[00:22:02] Joe: all of these idioms had to have that moment. Which is fascinating. If you do something individually, you're just doing that and everybody thinks you're crazy, but if you have at least one person follow you and do that thing as well, and people see two people doing it...
Then it gets momentum and all you need is someone else to do the same thing and, and maybe that's the same thing with idioms, by the way, Alfred was the most popular
baby you've been doing some work.
1910.
[00:22:37] Tim: Wow.
[00:22:38] Joe: Yeah. Since then,
not so much. It has,
[00:22:44] Tim: Was there a particularly
bad Alfred?
[00:22:46] Joe: Oh, that, that'll do it too. there's Not a whole lot of Adolf's I'm sure anymore.
[00:22:50] Tim: Right, was there an Alfred Hitler? Like his brother?
[00:22:54] Joe: That would be bad.
[00:22:55] Tim: What if, Adolf Hitler's brother was a great guy?
[00:23:00] Joe: Yeah.
[00:23:01] Tim: He's fucked.
[00:23:02] Joe: Yeah. Reggie
[00:23:04] Tim: Reggie Hitler,
[00:23:05] Joe: Yeah. "
[00:23:08] Tim: What's your,"
"uh, Reggie, nice to meet you."
"Hi Reggie, what's your last name?"
"Uhhhhhh...."
[00:23:13] Joe: "I'd rather not say."
"Just, just, call me Reggie." "I don't want to be, I have a brother who's..."
[00:23:23] Tim: "it's complicated."
[00:23:24] Joe: "He makes some poor decisions."
[00:23:26] Tim: "Point is, I'm the good one."
[00:23:29] Joe: Yeah.
[00:23:29] Tim: Also, just to circle back around to a couple things. One, Zuul. Once you name your kid something like that, does the second one, you feel like, Oh, I got to up my game again. Or do you just go I had my one.
Now he's going to be Andrew.
[00:23:46] Joe: No, I think you have to keep up the Ghostbusters theme. Right? I think you
have to. It's just like the people who named their kids all starting with the same letter. You gotta keep the theme going. Yeah. What was the other one?
[00:24:01] Tim: Gozer!
[00:24:03] Joe: Gozer, that's the one!
[00:24:04] Tim: Yeah
[00:24:04] Joe: That'd be your other kid.
[00:24:08] Tim: Can you imagine? That actually would be awesome. I don't have biological children and neither do my sisters which is why we thought it would be really funny.
[00:24:18] Joe: Oh yeah. You have the ability just form your child's vocabulary. But like
You know many times that crossed my mind when she was young enough to really influence? Like just messing with her?
[00:24:31] Tim: Every line is like your first, what was the first thing she said? "Oh, uh, you know, when somebody asks you if you're a God, you say yes."
[00:24:39] Joe: You're sticking with the theme. That's pretty good.
[00:24:42] Tim: You got a lot of power. You can name them. Right. And that's also going to represent you. Your child is a reflection of you in so many ways.
[00:24:51] Joe: Which is another reason why I didn't mess with her too much.
Oh, she's just like her dad,
messed up!
[00:24:57] Tim: Yeah. This doesn't have to be a thing. I'm just going to go away for several years.
[00:25:02] Joe: Yeah.
[00:25:03] Tim: I'll come back when you're fully formed and then I'll share a couple of funny lines with you. But for now, it's your mom's job.
[00:25:10] Joe: Would "Zuul" be a guy's name or a girl's name?
[00:25:14] Tim: Well, Bill Murray was like, "Oh, Zuulie"
Does that clear it up?
[00:25:20] Tim: "Zuulie"' feels a little bit more like a girl's, you know, it's kind of a
nice little,
[00:25:24] Joe: okay. Cause well, Dana became Zuul right?
[00:25:27] Tim: Yeah. That's when he calls her "Zuulie".
[00:25:30] Joe: But, Zuul was already a thing. It's just Zuul took control over Dana.
[00:25:35] Tim: Yes.
[00:25:36] Joe: So, Zuul--was Zuul a dude?
[00:25:37] Tim: "No Dana... only Zuul." Gozer doesn't sound like a girl name.
[00:25:44] Joe: I gotta be honest. I don't even know. I mean, I know Gozer, but I don't know Zuul and Gozer's relationship?
[00:25:50] Tim: Well, Gozer, the Gozerian.
[00:25:53] Joe: Sure. Well, that just makes sense.
Um, typing in "Zuul" to the,
the "Baby Name Popularity Visualizer."
[00:26:01] Tim: Excuse me?
[00:26:02] Joe: zero results.
I typed in "Zuul"!
[00:26:05] Tim: Nothing? There's never been one?
[00:26:07] Joe: No, well, not according to,
well, the internet knows everything, right?
[00:26:11] Tim: The date of baby base?
[00:26:14] Joe: Data baby!
[00:26:17] Tim: IMDBB?
I don't even understand that. Why do we need a visualizer for a name? Does it match the the kind of baby look with the name?
[00:26:28] Joe: Yes, It just shows me a picture of the kid that would be named Zuul.
[00:26:33] Tim: Here is Toby. And you're like, of course.
[00:26:36] Joe: Let me tell you when Toby peaked. Uh,
[00:26:40] Tim: I don't, think Toby peaked.
[00:26:41] Joe: You wanna guess? When was Toby the most popular, you think?
[00:26:44] Tim: Fifties!
[00:26:45] Joe: No, it wasn't the fifties.
[00:26:48] Tim: Seventies?
[00:26:49] Joe: It was the seventies.
[00:26:51] Tim: Wow.
[00:26:52] Joe: and there were only in the U S this is all based on the u s
[00:26:57] Tim: two.
[00:26:58] Joe: 299 per million.
[00:27:01] Tim: Damn.
In, in the seventies.
[00:27:03] Joe: In, the seventies.
[00:27:04] Tim: What is it now?
[00:27:06] Joe: lower than that. It is 62 per million.
[00:27:09] Tim: That seems high.
[00:27:11] Joe: In the 1920s, it was pretty neck and neck whether Toby was a boy or a girl.
[00:27:16] Tim: My former brother in law, Jeff, once said that, toby is a kid who eats paste.
[00:27:22] Joe: Oh yes. Toby. I hope there aren't any Toby. Are there any Toby's
[00:27:31] Tim: listening? Chances are there are no Toby's
[00:27:33] Joe: Yeah. So I think it was a safe one to attack.
chances are that Toby is not listening.
And all the Alfreds are dead.
[00:27:41] Tim: Yeah.
[00:27:42] Joe: So we're safe there too.
[00:27:43] Tim: This is good to keep this database handy Oh yeah. check off, you know, and just be like, Oh, we made fun of the person named this.
What are Yeah. they're going to be listening?
You do that overdub thing with the "Chad"
[00:28:02] Joe: Uh, do you know a Chad? That's not a jerk?
[00:28:06] Tim: No. Chad mcQueen just died.
[00:28:09] Joe: Who's Chad McQueen? was. that Steve McQueen's kid?
[00:28:11] Tim: Yeah.
[00:28:12] Joe: Oh, wow!
[00:28:13] Tim: He used to be in action like he was in 1990s, like he was in some really bad straight to video action movies
[00:28:20] Joe: Chad McQueen.
[00:28:21] Tim: There was a place I was working in Portland called Rentrack, and they were a video cassette distributor. And every once in a while these celebrities had to come in. I got an autographed picture of Chad McQueen.
[00:28:34] Joe: You did?
[00:28:34] Tim: And I gave it to my friend Buck, and he stuck it up on his bulletin board.
[00:28:38] Joe: you think Buck is more popular now
than ever?
The name?
[00:28:43] Tim: Hmm. I'm going to say,
[00:28:46] Joe: that's a good one.
[00:28:47] Tim: This is a prescient conversation because this is like an Easter egg for coming episodes.
[00:28:54] Joe: I have the answer. But I'm not going to tell you.
[00:28:57] Tim: All right, let's hold off on that.
[00:28:58] Joe: Yeah. Cause there's a whole lot of buck that we need to talk about.
[00:29:01] Tim: Yeah, yeah.
[00:29:02] Joe: There's Buck... for days.
Not an idiom, believe it or not.
But for this, episode, I don't, I don't give a Buck.
[00:29:18] Tim: We'll, put a pin in Buck then.
[00:29:20] Joe: Yes.
[00:29:21] Tim: We'll backburner Buck.
[00:29:22] Joe: All not idioms.
Not yet.
Not yet.
[00:29:27] Tim: All right, let's uh,
let's
wrap that one.
[00:29:30] Joe: before we do, I want to talk about how we're new. You and me.
And, uh, don't really have any friends yet. So if you're listening to this, tell somebody
[00:29:41] Tim: tell everybody,
[00:29:42] Joe: tell everybody! And also, ridiculistics.com is a thing. That's where you can find us to go on any of the podcast services that you listen on and, find where to subscribe follow or whatever you do with podcasts. and you should do that! Feedfront @ridiculistics.com is our email address. If you want to just flat out, email us.
[00:30:05] Tim: Feed front?
[00:30:07] Joe: Feed front!
I bet you can figure out where that came from.
[00:30:11] Tim: F - E - E - D
F-R-O-N-T
[00:30:13] Joe: that's right!
[00:30:15] Tim: I don't have any idea where that came from.
[00:30:17] Joe: Well, it's not feedback.
[00:30:21] Tim: Oh, Jesus.
Well, no!
Okay, I'm not saying that that might have been, uh,
[00:30:32] Joe: Confusing?
[00:30:33] Tim: Misguided... in the choice for that, because feed front means you're giving
I don't even know...
[00:30:39] Joe: What does that mean?
Go ahead. I want to hear this.
[00:30:43] Tim: I was gonna say it means you're giving feedback ahead of an
episode that never happened.
[00:30:48] Joe: Whoa.
That's like space time continuum stuff. That's blowing my mind.
[00:30:52] Tim: Yeah,
[00:30:53] Joe: front" is, Yeah. Okay. So the thing has yet to happen. That's exactly what it is. So please send your ideas for what we should talk about idioms, funny words, uh, definitions, origins, etymology.
Uh, Do we have a toll free number? We do, don't we?
[00:31:09] Joe: Yes.
[00:31:12] Tim: Give us a call on the toll free number.
All right. This is Tim!
[00:31:15] Joe: This is Joe!
[00:31:16] Tim: Signing off.
This was.
Is that it?
[00:31:26] Tim: I don't know. Are we done?
I think that was
[00:31:30] Joe: probably it.